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fuzzynavol

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Any of you use Medicare?
« on: November 05, 2019, 08:08:32 PM »
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Tuesday signaled President Donald Trump’s blunt thumbs-down to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s plan allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Her office’s sharp retort: “Working people won’t like it if he sells them out.”

Despite the House impeachment inquiry, the White House and top aides to the California Democrat have been in regular contact on efforts to curb drug prices, a mutual objective and a top concern for Americans across party lines.

But a senior White House official told The Associated Press that the administration has concluded Pelosi’s plan is “unworkable” and Trump will instead support bipartisan legislation pending in the Senate. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss ongoing deliberations.

The falling out imperils chances for legislation this year, already seen as a long shot.
A recent study found more than half of seriously ill Medicare enrollees face financial hardships with medical bills, and prescription drug costs are the leading problem.

In a statement responding to the White House, Pelosi spokesman Henry Connelly said, “House Democrats are taking the bold action to negotiate lower drug prices that President Trump always claimed was necessary, and working people won’t like it if he sells them out on one of the most important kitchen table issues in America right now.”

The senior White House official said that while Trump is not ideologically opposed to Medicare negotiating prices for medicines, Pelosi’s approach can’t be quickly retooled.

Her bill would levy steep taxes on drugmakers who refuse to accept a Medicare price keyed to what’s paid in other economically advanced countries. The White House official pointed to the lack of Republican support for the Pelosi bill and objected that it’s structured to essentially give Medicare the power to dictate prices.

Trump is backing a bipartisan bill from Sens. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

That legislation would for the first time limit what seniors have to pay out of their own pockets for medications. It would also require drug companies to pay rebates to Medicare if they hike prices beyond the inflation rate.

Similar ideas are also in Pelosi’s legislation, but she takes a more aggressive approach to inflation rebates and sets a lower out-of-pocket limit for Medicare recipients.
Under the legislation that created Medicare’s prescription drug program, price negotiations are handled privately by insurers and their pharmacy benefit managers. The Grassley-Wyden bill does not grant Medicare negotiating power.

Pelosi’s bill has cleared key committees and is headed for the House floor, where it’s expected to pass on a party-line vote. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has estimated it would save Medicare $345 billion over seven years, and Democrats want to use some of that to expand benefits.

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Re: Any of you use Medicare?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2019, 08:38:23 PM »
So her diverting funds from social security to fund the impeachment goes without widespread reporting, but this makes the grade?  Imagine that. 

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2019, 09:11:44 PM »
So her diverting funds from social security to fund the impeachment goes without widespread reporting, but this makes the grade?  Imagine that.
I had not seen any news on that, and it strikes me as impossible the way SS is configured.

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2019, 10:47:46 PM »
How unlike you fuzz to post such a slanted, partisan article.    

I'm sure you know that Trump has been working on lowering prescription drug prices.   Here's an article from The Hill about Trump's plan.   Given your sudden interest in the subject, I thought you might like to read up on it.   

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/455720-trumps-drug-pricing-plan-is-focused-on-patients-not-profits


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Re: Any of you use Medicare?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 07:57:13 AM »



Prices are already negotiated with insurance companies if you stay in network.

One thing is for sure democrats are hell bent on destroying healthcare forcing people onto their single payer plan or socialized medicine.  Obamacare was just the first step in taking us there.

Pocahontas's Medicare for All will cost FIFTY NINE TRILLION over ten years. 

That's almost TWO TRILLION more per year than the federal government receives in tax revenue.

One thing is for sure about democrats they've never seen anything they couldn't screw up.






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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 10:30:09 AM »
To be fair, Warren's plan is "only" $52 trillion over ten years, or $5.2 trillion a year, which is more than government spends today on everything.

Elizabeth Warren says she would not raise middle-class taxes for $52 trillion health-care plan

« Last Edit: November 06, 2019, 10:41:23 AM by Cincydawg »

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 10:41:06 AM »

We all should understand that taxes on employers is not something employers will pay.  That is a HUGE tax increase on them.  There is a lot of other mickey mouse math here as well, I don't think with a plan like this she is going to get elected.

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 12:15:24 PM »
I had not seen any news on that, and it strikes me as impossible the way SS is configured.
I went to look for it.. It had a B not a M beside it quoting $2.5B... If I had noticed that before I would have known it was bull spit, though these jackalopes wouldnt think twice about a measly $2.5M... The source of the inaccuracy (read: lie) is "the internet".  

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 01:17:49 PM »
To be fair, Warren's plan is "only" $52 trillion over ten years, or $5.2 trillion a year, which is more than government spends today on everything.

Elizabeth Warren says she would not raise middle-class taxes for $52 trillion health-care plan




Well I guess it depends on which news source you choose to watch I saw one at 30 Trillion.

It still an insane proposal and unaffordable

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/warrens-30-trillion-medicare-for-allproblem-has-a-solution/2019/10/18/6d38952e-f19b-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2019, 01:28:45 PM »
Elizabeth Warren says she would not raise middle-class taxes for $52 trillion health-care plan

Makes me sick when politicians say this crap, and sicker that people might believe it.

"Middle class" is the only class with no means to avoid taxes.

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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2019, 02:38:16 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469154-democrats-give-warrens-medicare-for-all-plan-the-cold-shoulder

It does not appear to me to have much chance at all of passage of ANY Congress.  Most other Dems in office are talking about the public option (which would lead to universal fairly quickly).

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2019, 05:33:59 PM »
We haven't fixed immigration and healthcare because they are not supposed to.

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This.


 

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