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HK_Vol

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2018, 07:56:49 AM »
Your condescension is dripping.

Do you really think that Trump supporters are ignorant idiots that have an IQ of 85?

Oh wait, you're "superior", just like the writer of that letter and the other pencil pushers in DC.
Can't have the "little people" running their own lives now, can we?

Don't you get it yet? It is that exact attitude as to why Trump won in 2016.

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2018, 09:04:13 AM »
Your condescension is dripping.  Do you really think that Trump supporters are ignorant idiots that have an IQ of 85?

According to polls, the facts support my "condescension."  Here's the findings from a recent PEW poll:  Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.  http://www.people-press.org/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/  
Oh wait, you're "superior", just like the writer of that letter and the other pencil pushers in DC.

Why did you put the word superior in quotations?  Who has said it?  

Can't have the "little people" running their own lives now, can we?

You may disagree, but I want the smartest, most qualified doctor, accountant, lawyer and politician possible.  

Don't you get it yet? It is that exact attitude as to why Trump won in 2016.

Trump giving an open voice to white nationalism won him the nomination over the field of Republicans, virtually all of whom (with the possible exception of Ben Carson), were more qualified to be POTUS.  Loyal Republican partisanship and an electoral college fluke won him the presidency.  


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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2018, 09:11:38 AM »
Fuzz ignores the fact that most of the people in college tend to be in the liberal arts programs that attract people who where already leftist. Similar polls of equally educated adults in fields such as Engineering & Business, show them to be much Conservative in their views. 



President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2018, 09:38:34 AM »
Fuzz ignores the fact that most of the people in college tend to be in the liberal arts programs that attract people who where already leftist. Similar polls of equally educated adults in fields such as Engineering & Business, show them to be much Conservative in their views.
To prevent anyone from being deceived by your talking point, this poll is of the total of all higher education graduates and makes no distinction between different fields.  Just because students pursuing some degrees may be more conservative than others doesn't change the fact that post graduate degree earners are overwhelmingly liberal.  You'd be better off trying out one of your "education is for dummies" talking points.  Here's the chart that proves I'm correct:

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2018, 09:54:48 AM »
To prevent anyone from being deceived by your talking point, this poll is of the total of all higher education graduates and makes no distinction between different fields.  Just because students pursuing some degrees may be more conservative than others doesn't change the fact that post graduate degree earners are overwhelmingly liberal.  You'd be better off trying out one of your "education is for dummies" talking points.  Here's the chart that proves I'm correct:

Thanks for proving my point  said and I quote ''Fuzz ignores the fact that most of the people in college tend to be in the liberal arts programs that attract people who where already leftist. Similar polls of equally educated adults in fields such as Engineering & Business, show them to be much Conservative in their views. '' 

Common sense Fuzz if more people are already liberal and the majority go to college in liberal fields the poll will show liberal views :smiley_confused1:

But when your a bigoted elitist,  common sense has already flown out the window


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2018, 10:13:02 AM »
That is because most post-graduates majored in a subject that leaves them unemployable....so they go back to school for more.....and if they are successful - they teach the exact same crap at a university for similarly unemployable people.....


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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2018, 10:20:58 AM »
Difficult:
Dentistry – 63% Conservative
Surgical Practice – 69% Conservative
Veterinary – 51% Conservative

Easier:
Foods and Nutrition – 73% Liberal
Physical Therapy – 61% Liberal
Medical Services – 61% Liberal
Nursing – 66% Liberal

Theoretical:
Economics – 77% Liberal
General Business – 58% Liberal

Practical:
Accounting – 55% Conservative
Finance – 59% Conservative

Majors with no / few job opportunities other than teaching more of the same:
Women’s Studies – 98% Liberal
Sociology – 96% Liberal
Acting – 93% Liberal

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2018, 10:27:02 AM »
Difficult:
Dentistry – 63% Conservative
Surgical Practice – 69% Conservative
Veterinary – 51% Conservative

Easier:
Foods and Nutrition – 73% Liberal
Physical Therapy – 61% Liberal
Medical Services – 61% Liberal
Nursing – 66% Liberal

Theoretical:
Economics – 77% Liberal
General Business – 58% Liberal

Practical:
Accounting – 55% Conservative
Finance – 59% Conservative

Majors with no / few job opportunities other than teaching more of the same:
Women’s Studies – 98% Liberal
Sociology – 96% Liberal
Acting – 93% Liberal
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2018, 10:36:13 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/anonymous-speaks/

Anonymous Speaks

I’ve tried to explain this phenomenon before. The short explanation is: every bureaucrat in Washington believes he or she should be president, no matter who technically holds the title. This is true in all agencies, at all levels. Never mind the claim that the author is a “senior official” somewhere or other. Anyone from the level of deputy assistant secretary to special assistants to Senate-confirmed ranks can make such a claim. If you want documentation, have a peek at all those employees expected to show up for work during a “government shutdown.” They’re all desperate to be classified “essential.”

It’s what Washington is all about. It isn’t treasonous or cowardly, it’s about ambition. You cannot imagine it until you see it unfold. When I worked for then-Secretary of State Haig, I was in a staff meeting one morning where Haig gave an explicit order to an assistant secretary, who of course responded, “Yes, sir.” Whereupon, within hours, he did the opposite. And kept his job! Really.

Anonymous has no end of allies, who are misdescribed as “resistance from within.” The New York Times op-ed could have been written most any time in the past many decades. Of course these ambitious cloak their ambition in the rhetoric of the “higher good.” As Anonymous says, “But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of the republic.”

What does this mean in simple English? It means that the bureaucrats have seen many presidents come and go, but they—Anonymous et al.—are still there, and will still be there post-Trump. So they will continue to work for smart policy, which is to say THEIR policy, never mind what that clod in the White House may want.

Meanwhile, I’m grateful the editors at the New York Times have helped clarify the workings of the swamp. It’s crucial to recognize that this is a long-standing and very widespread phenomenon. Funny how these “essential” officials are the very same swamp dwellers who purport to fear a Trump dictatorship, when they so often impose their own views without a proper policy debate.

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2018, 10:54:29 AM »



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1) It concedes Trump’s accomplishments are big. Early in the piece, the author admits that the Trump administration has had significant success on the issues most important to American voters. . . .

2) Its complaints are small. Why does the author object to Trump? The president is not a true philosophical conservative, he says.

3) It suggests there is a government conspiracy to thwart the president.

So the anonymous writer is Donald Trump?

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2018, 11:42:40 AM »
That is because most post-graduates majored in a subject that leaves them unemployable....so they go back to school for more.....and if they are successful - they teach the exact same crap at a university for similarly unemployable people.....
Please post some credible data that shows a negative correlation between education achieved and employment.  

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2018, 11:44:06 AM »
Difficult:
Dentistry – 63% Conservative
Surgical Practice – 69% Conservative
Veterinary – 51% Conservative

Easier:
Foods and Nutrition – 73% Liberal
Physical Therapy – 61% Liberal
Medical Services – 61% Liberal
Nursing – 66% Liberal

Theoretical:
Economics – 77% Liberal
General Business – 58% Liberal

Practical:
Accounting – 55% Conservative
Finance – 59% Conservative

Majors with no / few job opportunities other than teaching more of the same:
Women’s Studies – 98% Liberal
Sociology – 96% Liberal
Acting – 93% Liberal

Not that any of that is relevant to or refutes my post, but why are you ashamed of the source of your data?  

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2018, 12:27:25 PM »
Difficult:
Dentistry – 63% Conservative
Surgical Practice – 69% Conservative
Veterinary – 51% Conservative

Easier:
Foods and Nutrition – 73% Liberal
Physical Therapy – 61% Liberal
Medical Services – 61% Liberal
Nursing – 66% Liberal

Theoretical:
Economics – 77% Liberal
General Business – 58% Liberal

Practical:
Accounting – 55% Conservative
Finance – 59% Conservative

Majors with no / few job opportunities other than teaching more of the same:
Women’s Studies – 98% Liberal
Sociology – 96% Liberal
Acting – 93% Liberal

And all those liberal so called elitists are up to their chinny chin chins in college loan debt.... Yep, they sure are the smartest most elite of us......

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Re: Anonymous BOMBSHELL from Senior Trump Official...
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2018, 12:35:30 PM »
Yep, they sure are the smartest most elite of us......
See, Dan?  That's what I was talking about - some good ole fashioned "education's for dummies" rhetoric.  Not that it's a winning argument, but that's what you should have gone with.  

 

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