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MaximumSam

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Re: Acquitted
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2021, 11:42:21 AM »
This is the lead definition:

a judicial trial held in public with the intention of influencing or satisfying public opinion, rather than of ensuring justice.


Well it's not a judicial trial

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2021, 11:49:40 AM »
Well it's not a judicial trial
No it was a farce
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Acquitted
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2021, 12:13:52 PM »
On May 16, 1868, in a dramatic call of the roll, 35 senators voted to convict the president of "high crimes and misdemeanors," while 19 senators voted to acquit. A clear majority voted against the president, but the tally fell one vote short of the necessary two-thirds majority to convict. Ten days later, when the Senate voted on articles 2 and 3, the result was the same.


"It was by far the most bipartisan majority that's ever assembled in the Senate to convict a president, which has traditionally been a kind of partisan thing in American history," Raskin continued. "We got seven Republicans, and if you look at the ten Republicans in the House who joined us, it was by far the most bipartisan decision and a complete repudiation of the president's conduct."

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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2021, 12:14:14 PM »
So, was this a 'show trial" or not?  It's a qualitative term of course.

Yes. It was also a blatantly machiavellian political manuever.

"Every impeachment is a political trial to some extent, but this impeachment stands out. Not just because Trump isn’t in office, or because of their long record of false allegations against Trump (starting with Trump/Russia). But because Democrats are impeaching Trump for alleged conduct that they, by their own standards, are guilty of: challenging an election, supporting protests in government buildings, calling for violence, etc.

Proof:


https://youtu.be/rhJYHU3ejLc

The point of the video is to show that Democrats weren’t concerned about accountability or justice.
Rather, this is a prosecution that gives their party immunity while indicting their political opponents."

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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2021, 07:36:41 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2021, 07:52:35 PM »
Yes. It was also a blatantly machiavellian political manuever.
How could it be Machiavellian if Biden's already in the White House and Trump's out of power?  


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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2021, 08:12:31 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2021, 08:17:52 PM »
How could it be Machiavellian if Biden's already in the White House and Trump's out of power? 



The corrupt Democrats are always looking ahead for ways to grab and maintain political power and will perpetuate any lie that meets that end, they are much better at it than Republicans.

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« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2021, 09:13:11 PM »
On May 16, 1868, in a dramatic call of the roll, 35 senators voted to convict the president of "high crimes and misdemeanors," while 19 senators voted to acquit. A clear majority voted against the president, but the tally fell one vote short of the necessary two-thirds majority to convict. Ten days later, when the Senate voted on articles 2 and 3, the result was the same.


"It was by far the most bipartisan majority that's ever assembled in the Senate to convict a president, which has traditionally been a kind of partisan thing in American history," Raskin continued. "We got seven Republicans, and if you look at the ten Republicans in the House who joined us, it was by far the most bipartisan decision and a complete repudiation of the president's conduct."
All of the guilty votes for Johnson were Republicans, so there was no bi-partisan support for conviction.  The difference for Johnson is that he was actually a Republican.  

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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2021, 09:30:39 PM »
All of the guilty votes for Johnson were Republicans, so there was no bi-partisan support for conviction.  The difference for Johnson is that he was actually a Republican. 
Are you sure?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2021, 09:31:27 PM »
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The corrupt Democrats are always looking ahead for ways to grab and maintain political power and will perpetuate any lie that meets that end, they are much better at it than Republicans.
It may be tactical. Trump is not a strong candidate and Dems probably feel much more comfortable having elections while he's in charge of the republican party.

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« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2021, 09:47:10 PM »
2It may be tactical. Trump is not a strong candidate and Dems probably feel much more comfortable having elections while he's in charge of the republican party.
Ahhhhhhhh Now I get it.    You say to yourself "What's the stupidest thing I could post"

Then you post it.

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« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2021, 10:46:54 PM »
https://amgreatness.com/2021/02/13/yes-acquittal-is-vindication/


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I think that an acquittal is a vindication. I know that there are some intermittently conservative organs that disagree. They believe, or at least they say, that Trump’s acquittal does not mean he was vindicated. The proposition that Donald Trump is in the wrong is an analytic truth for them. Like the proposition “all bachelors are unmarried,” they regard it as a necessary truth. It is something inarguable.

It is worth noting, however, that these are the same organs that couldn’t stop berating Trump—the most pro-life, pro-Israel, pro-prosperity, pro-middle class, and pro-American president in decades (maybe ever)—while he was president. And they are also the same organs that, come tomorrow, will be wringing their hands over Joe Biden’s pro-abortion, pro-China, pro-totalitarian attacks on American freedom and prosperity. They prefer whining to wielding power, I suspect, and actually seem to believe that an incompetent mannequin-like Mitt Romney is somehow more preferable as president than someone like Donald Trump.

And poor Peggy Noonan must be really unhappy.

That touches on one of the two main reasons that the Democratic machine wheeled out their impeachment wheeze yet again. They are terrified of the voters—all those embryonic “domestic terrorists” Joe Biden’s Stasi is tracking—who, ignoring the wisdom of their betters, might actually get together and vote someone else like Donald Trump—if not the Bad Orange Man himself—into office again. That mustn’t happen.

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« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2021, 10:53:09 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/432313/#respond


BLOWBACK: Louisiana GOP censures Sen. Cassidy over impeachment vote to convict Trump. Unanimously. That was fast. “We condemn, in the strongest possible terms, the vote today by Sen. Cassidy to convict former President Trump. . . Fortunately, clearer heads prevailed and President Trump has been acquitted of the impeachment charge filed against him.”

UPDATE: Not just Louisiana. Also fast.



Anchorman •
You know, for a guy that lost, Trump sure has a lot of local and state politicians who fight for him and continue to put their political future with his movement of “Drain the Swamp.”

Think about that.

Across the country, local and state GOP are still sticking with Trump even though he is out of power, muzzled by the media, and persona non grata among the big money types.

Trump’s fighting put a lot of people into office and stiffened spines.

And yet somehow that didn’t translate into enough votes to beat a candidate who hid in his basement for months.

Curious that.






 

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