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Hawkinole

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Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« on: September 20, 2021, 12:53:38 AM »
I am an alumnus of two D-1 FBS schools, as most of you know. FSU had been one of the elite helmet schools, as was Nebraska. Both have fallen into various states of disrepair. I created this chart using recruiting data from Yahoo's Rivals website. This chart seems to show FSU and Nebraska underperforming in player development, and Wisconsin and Iowa overperforming in player development.
I keep hoping in my lifetime FSU will play Iowa somewhere, sometime, but the only hope is in a bowl. Ain't happenin' this year, and probably not next year. FSU has been puzzling, but UCF has outstripped FSU in enrollment, and football, and soon will be a P5 program. I recall how downward trends in Iowa football starting in 1961 became, for 19-years, irreversible.
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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2021, 11:00:34 AM »
Good chart, I think folks did know this without the data somehow.  Wisconsin is my ultimate example of PD.  Georgia is the reverse.

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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2021, 06:04:27 PM »
Almost hard to believe Wisconsin stays as low as they do in recruiting.  Their linemen have been great for ages, you'd think they were pulling in several blue-chippers per cycle there.  
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Hawkinole

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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2021, 12:20:56 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on September 20, 2021, 06:04:27 PM
Almost hard to believe Wisconsin stays as low as they do in recruiting.  Their linemen have been great for ages, you'd think they were pulling in several blue-chippers per cycle there. 
One of my solutions to the past 4-5 years of poor FSU offensive line play is for FSU to review the O-Line recruits list for each O-Lineman Wisconsin expresses an interest in recruiting, and contact everyone of them. 
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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2021, 09:03:39 AM »
I think they coach them up at Wisky.
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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2021, 02:33:58 AM »
My point is Iowa should be the worst of these teams in 2021; FSU should be the best, based upon recruiting.
I don't think this is the case in 2021. In fact, there is now an argument that the recruiting standings are opposite of the actual results, for these teams.
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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2021, 09:24:58 AM »
You should repost this on the B1G board, it's fascinating.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2021, 01:01:53 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 03, 2021, 09:24:58 AM
You should repost this on the B1G board, it's fascinating.
I would like to get folks directed to this board, too. Maybe a post like this will be posted later on the Big Ten Board. If I said, "Go Hawks, Bearcats, and Dawgs!" I think we would have a conflict of interest, that could extend into the playoffs. Getting my hopes up, anyway. I have more confidence in the Bearcats and Dawgs.
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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2021, 09:13:42 AM »
Yeah, it would be great to get more action here, but mainly as you know it's on the B1G site.

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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2021, 12:54:36 AM »
I could work on something like this, offseason to post on Big Ten.
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Re: Recruiting, Coaching, and Player Development
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2021, 09:09:02 AM »
The correlation between "stars" and wins is usually a good one, and the exceptions like Wisky and Iowa are fascinating.
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